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    by GeoffM » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:08 pm

    Hi All,

    I am after some advice regarding printing problems. I have recently upgraded my PC and ever since all my prints come out way to dark and are nothing like what I see on the monitor (uncalibrated).

    The new PC is running Vista and I am guessing this could possibly be the problem! I use Lightroom for all my processing and generally print from LR. Before Vista I was running XP and all was OK for the standard of printer I have, an HP Photo print 930C which is about 6 years old.

    I plan to upgrade my printer, but am reluctant to spend if I am going to have tha same problem.

    So... is the problem with Vista? Lightroom? Vista and Lightroom together? The printer I am running with Vista? Monitor calibration? or something else altogether?

    Any advice / help to resolve would be greatly received.
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    by NikonUser » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:21 pm

    My first thought would probably be that you may have a printer driver problem...

    Download the latest driver (if there is a Vista compatible one) from the HP website and install that. Might not be able to find one though with the printer being 6 years old.

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    by dm_td5 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:47 pm

    I agree sounds like a printer driver issue. I suspect you may have the default generic Vista driver and therefore a very basic colour profile. A quick check of the HP site reveals no Vista driver (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docu ... 6&lang=en#) is available.
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    by GeoffM » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:18 pm

    Thanks Paul and Derek for your feedback. I should have mentioned I had already gone down the driver path and found that a driver was not available for download. I suppose that means that the printer is next to useless, at least when it comes to printing photo's.

    Why is it when you upgrade there is always other hidden costs :evil:

    Looks like another printer will have to come along sooner than I thought.
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    by avkomp » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:40 pm

    many PC vendors offer a windows XP "downgrade"

    you could perhaps enquire about that whilst you wait for them to fix vista?
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    by NikonUser » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:46 pm

    Is darkness the only problem?

    If so, is there an option within the vista printer driver to increase the brightness of prints? You could slide that up a bit until you get the desired results.

    Certainly not a great solution... but it might get you by.

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    P.S. To find the printer driver settings: Control Panel (classic mode) --> Printers --> Right Click --> Printing Preferences...
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    by GeoffM » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:46 pm

    NikonUser wrote:Is darkness the only problem?

    If so, is there an option within the vista printer driver to increase the brightness of prints? You could slide that up a bit until you get the desired results.

    Certainly not a great solution... but it might get you by.

    Paul

    P.S. To find the printer driver settings: Control Panel (classic mode) --> Printers --> Right Click --> Printing Preferences...


    Thanks Paul, have tried that and there is no improvement. Darkness is not the only problem the colours are not vibrant and the print is very flat overall. I should add that the paper type I am using is unchanged.

    As mentioned, I have been considering a printer upgrade....to A3 anyhow, was looking at Epson 1900, then read that the 3800 ...A2 is better value for money and gives more options. I cant afford the 3800 at the moment, and now reluctant to go for the 1900 because of the said advantages. Should I get another A4 until funds are available? (I am not asking you to make that choice for me, just presenting my situation :roll: )

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    by NikonUser » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:52 pm

    GeoffM wrote:
    NikonUser wrote:Is darkness the only problem?

    If so, is there an option within the vista printer driver to increase the brightness of prints? You could slide that up a bit until you get the desired results.

    Certainly not a great solution... but it might get you by.

    Paul

    P.S. To find the printer driver settings: Control Panel (classic mode) --> Printers --> Right Click --> Printing Preferences...


    Thanks Paul, have tried that and there is no improvement. Darkness is not the only problem the colours are not vibrant and the print is very flat overall. I should add that the paper type I am using is unchanged.

    As mentioned, I have been considering a printer upgrade....to A3 anyhow, was looking at Epson 1900, then read that the 3800 ...A2 is better value for money and gives more options. I cant afford the 3800 at the moment, and now reluctant to go for the 1900 because of the said advantages. Should I get another A4 until funds are available? (I am not asking you to make that choice for me, just presenting my situation :roll: )

    Decisions, decisions, life is full of them.

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    I am in almost exactly the same position...

    My Epson R800 has died on me and I need a new printer...

    The 1900 is on my short list

    The 3800 is on my shorter list due to the lower ink costs and more options...

    However I think the 'madly saving for a house deposit' fund will dictate that I will go for the R1900. When I think about it really hard, it is the most logical choice considering very few of my prints would be over A3 in size... but the 3800 is damn sexy!!

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    by matt » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:57 pm

    GeoffM wrote: Should I get another A4 until funds are available? (I am not asking you to make that choice for me, just presenting my situation :roll: )

    Geoff


    Why not go the r1410. Not a pigment printer, same price as a new r800 but A3 all the same. The dye inks still have a good life expectancy. I dont think you would lose to much if you ebayed it or sold on at a later stage either.

    Just something else to think about.

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    by GeoffM » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:53 pm

    I've gone and done it! ordered the Epson 3800 that is. Another learning curve to go through once it arrives.
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    by matt » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:24 am

    Geoff can I ask a rough price you paid??

    I have been offered a second hand 3800 that has done a few prints for $1500,. Not sure If its worth it.

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    by GeoffM » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:53 am

    Matt

    I have ordered it from AIM Digital for $1865 plus 50 sheets each of A2, A3 & A4 paper for an additional $30. here is the link. http://www.ausmedia.com.au/dynamic/cgi- ... Epson-3800.

    $1500 is probabaly a bit high for a used unit, but I suppose this depends on how much ink is included. Its around $1000 for a full set of cartridges which the 3800 comes with as standard.
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    by matt » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:05 am

    That puts it a bit into perspective, I think its a little expensive now also. I missed out on a used r2400 for $600 which would have suited me better.

    thanks Geoff



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    by GeoffM » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:14 pm

    WOW! Problems have now gone away. Run of my first print on the 3800 last night at A3+ and to say I am stoked with the quality is an understatment. if you are consdering this printer all I can say is do not hesitate, you won't be sorry.
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    by potsyn » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:15 am

    I'm experiencing the same problem too. When I upgraded my OS from XP to Vista, my printer doesn't work pretty well. It prints only up to 5 pages then stops. I have to turn it off then on to print for another set of pages. When that happens, I switch back to XP and it works pretty well again.. :)

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