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    Time lapse advice

    by Busiboy » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:47 pm

    Hey all,

    I might have a chance to do some time lapse work on a very interesting project (construction) soon.

    The difficulty I am having is on how you do such a project well. I don't want to get to the end and realise I have done twice or half as much work as I should have.

    The project duration will be for approximately 6 months, and the site is approximately 100x150m.

    One potential area that I will be shooting from is potentially only 20 m from the edge of the site and maybe 10m high and in the middle of the 150m long side so I am thinking I need a fisheye to do this well.

    The other option is closer to a corner of the site and roughly the same height and distance away.

    How would others approach this? I am guessing to make a decent time lapse the image quality doesn't need to be huge nor perfect, I was thinking of buying and doing the hack on a powershot and then trying to keep batteries up to it once a day/week as required or using the Dslr to set up and shoot each day. The power shot was going to be encased in a box of sorts and left alone and repowered as required.

    Don't know enough and reading from the web not much information on the size and scope of the project is available.

    Any options pointers etc?
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    by photoboy » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:45 pm

    I have never tried this but it seems to me the best effect will be if the camera position is precisely the same for each shot.

    Your housed powershot is a good idea for this.

    If you choose to use a DSLR, I suggest getting a manfrotto superclamp atached to a tripod head and quick release plate. This could remain inplace for the duration - then you just clip-in, shoot and remove the camera each day/shot.

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    by Dug » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:57 pm

    Film runs at 24 frames per second so for every finished second of footage you need to have taken 24 frames.

    60 seconds = 1,440 frames

    To compress the time just work out how many days the build is and how long you want the film to run.

    The maths should be pretty simple :wink: :roll:

    Some minor movement of the camera position is not a great problem for stuff like this the footage is pretty jerky and the human eye and brain adapts and copes with it.

    If possible I would try to ram a pipe or star picket into the ground at your chosen spot and then attach a tripod head screw so you can use the post instead of a tripod Much cheaper and easier to leave in place on a construction site :D
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    by Busiboy » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:11 pm

    Thanks so far guys really appreciate it.

    This is probably a self answering quesstion in some respects but, would I be ok going with a fully auto model or would I be better off going to the G11 (heaven forbid) and manually setting the exposure so that bright days look bright and dark days look dark or would using the same settings thoughout just not work?

    I am thinking fully auto . . .
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    by Dug » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:17 pm

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    by RichardW » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:30 am

    Probably not much help but the only time I have tried time lapse I used the Canon EOS Utility on a laptop to control the camera and a cable to the laptop.
    I used the widest lens I have which is a 17-40 on the 5D.
    It was only for a 15min period at 5sec intervals and I had to hang around the setup.
    I have often thought about a long term time lapse so I'm interested in what others post as well.
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    by Dug » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:42 am

    How do you convert the images into a video format ?
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    by Busiboy » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:19 am

    Dug wrote:How do you convert the images into a video format ?


    Ditto, I have time to worry about it but figured there was some program out there that puts it together from a folder of resized images.
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    by Tim » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:36 pm

    Picasa 3 will stitch together images into a movie file like that you require for time lapse photos...

    I've often thought about setting up a time lapse setup during a 4wd comp at the camp grounds... set it up the night before, then let it capture away till early morning to capture the activity of everyone arriving, setting up campsites, unloading cars, checking cars over/fitting larger tyres. then driving off to compete kinda thing...

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    by Dug » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:02 pm

    Tim wrote:Picasa 3 will stitch together images into a movie file like that you require for time lapse photos...

    I've often thought about setting up a time lapse setup during a 4wd comp at the camp grounds... set it up the night before, then let it capture away till early morning to capture the activity of everyone arriving, setting up campsites, unloading cars, checking cars over/fitting larger tyres. then driving off to compete kinda thing...

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    by RichardW » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:38 pm

    Dug wrote:How do you convert the images into a video format ?


    My son did mine using Virtual Dub :oops: which is free.
    http://www.virtualdub.org/index.html
    He said there is a bit of a learning curve.
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    by Dalzine » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:29 pm

    Monkeyjam is a free animation program that lets you insert jpg images as frames. I've used it before to do timelapse (nothing interesting though).

    http://www.giantscreamingrobotmonkeys.com/monkeyjam/index.html

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    by keith_h » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:30 pm

    In short, you need an intervalometer and a cam both mains powered if possible.

    Intervalometer www.pclix.com

    The mother lode: http://www.sdphotoclub.com/pdf/time-lapse.pdf
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    by Dalzine » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:40 pm

    I'm thinking I might try to do some timelapse using my 50D with battery grip, see if it can last overnight. I'll hook it up to my PC and use the EOS Utility to control it, it's supposed to have an Intervalometer function.

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    by keith_h » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:24 pm

    Dug wrote:How do you convert the images into a video format ?


    Mi$rosoft movie maker, quicktime. Many options.

    One I did a while back.

    Follow Kranzels guide and it will be OK.
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