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    External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:36 pm

    Hello all,

    I have just purchased an after market Flash for my Nikon camera.
    Meike Speed light 9500
    I have not done any flash work before.
    I am aware my problem is user error.

    I was trying to take a portrait at a park overlooking the ocean.
    The conditions were quite sunny late afternoon.
    I wanted to use the flash to take out shadows off their faces, but at the same time have an aperture of 4.5 as to have a blur-ed background.
    Using the flash would not allow me to drop the F stop to 4.5 as the shutter speed was going to remain at 1/200th of a second.

    What do I need to do?
    I have been asked to take some weeding portraits for a friend at this location in 3 weeks time.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Busiboy » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:21 pm

    First, a compatible flash would make it 10 times easier with TTL. Even then it is a challenge to get it right, even moreso with the pressure of a wedding.

    Buy a scrim or reflector and have an assistant, much easier to do which is what I used on my recent shoot.

    After ignoring all that, you need to lower the power of your flash or create more distance between yourself and the subject.

    Also look at some remote triggers.

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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:06 pm

    Busiboy wrote:First, a compatible flash would make it 10 times easier with TTL. Even then it is a challenge to get it right, even moreso with the pressure of a wedding.

    Buy a scrim or reflector and have an assistant, much easier to do which is what I used on my recent shoot.

    After ignoring all that, you need to lower the power of your flash or create more distance between yourself and the subject.

    Also look at some remote triggers.

    Read http://www.strobist.blogspot.com.au/ religiously for 3 weeks.


    Thank you

    I can borrow a Nikon SB700 if you think it is a better option.

    Regards
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Busiboy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:33 pm

    I wouldn't use a flash in those scenarios that wasn't TTL.

    I have 4 or 5 non genuine flashes but I use them on locations with fixed parameters and no rush.

    Ie I pick a location, set up, test, work it all out, shoot for 15 mins before rinsing and repeating.

    For a wedding type shoot where you won't have that time luxury TTL flash is the only way to go, get the user manual if you can, select fill flash, test it and dial it back a bit.

    Weddings suck for in camera metering as well, usually you have a white dress and black suit in shite light.

    Put the subjects in the shade as much as possible to reduce the blow outs.

    A scrim is basically a piece of fabric that provides shade, having said that my eBay version gave a weird colour cast which would be very noticable on a white dress, so either use it and convert to black and white or make sure you use a grey card to get the right white balance for the subject each time.

    Best of luck, remember spare batteries and cards will be your friend.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:11 pm

    Busiboy wrote:I wouldn't use a flash in those scenarios that wasn't TTL.

    I have 4 or 5 non genuine flashes but I use them on locations with fixed parameters and no rush.

    Ie I pick a location, set up, test, work it all out, shoot for 15 mins before rinsing and repeating.

    For a wedding type shoot where you won't have that time luxury TTL flash is the only way to go, get the user manual if you can, select fill flash, test it and dial it back a bit.

    Weddings suck for in camera metering as well, usually you have a white dress and black suit in shite light.

    Put the subjects in the shade as much as possible to reduce the blow outs.

    A scrim is basically a piece of fabric that provides shade, having said that my eBay version gave a weird colour cast which would be very noticable on a white dress, so either use it and convert to black and white or make sure you use a grey card to get the right white balance for the subject each time.

    Best of luck, remember spare batteries and cards will be your friend.



    Thank you again for your reply,
    both flashes have TTL (Through The Lens)
    You are exact.
    I asked what the wedding party are wearing.
    Black and White as you have suggested
    Yes the location is in the sun,
    I can hope for an overcast day (does not happen often in Western Australia) :)
    I will see if I can create some shade.
    There will not be too much presure on me as I have suggested that we take the wedding photo's a few days prior to the wedding.
    That way if I make a mess of it, I can try again.

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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Busiboy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:04 pm

    Shoot in the tail end of teh afternoon.

    Have a go with your flash, see how the TTL goes.

    Best of luck.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:33 pm

    Busiboy wrote:Shoot in the tail end of teh afternoon.

    Have a go with your flash, see how the TTL goes.

    Best of luck.


    Thank you
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by LOZ » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:58 am

    I use to get in beep shit with Nikon flashes good luck with starting out with a wantabe
    Calm down its not real life its a internet forum:)
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Busiboy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:53 pm

    I'd also head up and have a few dry runs and one with the couple the week before as the "engagement shoot". There's a reason other than revenue the pros do, let's you build a comfort with shooting the couple before they get all dressed up.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by LOZ » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:25 pm

    Bigfoot1966 wrote:H
    I have been asked to take some weeding portraits for a friend at this location in 3 weeks time.
    .



    Oops missed that bit



    One thing you will learn very early that is friends and photography will never mix especially weddings just dont do
    Calm down its not real life its a internet forum:)
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:37 pm

    LOZ wrote:
    Bigfoot1966 wrote:H
    I have been asked to take some weeding portraits for a friend at this location in 3 weeks time.
    .



    Oops missed that bit



    One thing you will learn very early that is friends and photography will never mix especially weddings just don't do


    I am not getting paid to do this and do not want to be paid for this, doing a friend a favour, That way there is not a huge expectation.

    I will get down to the location this weekend and practice on the kids.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Eden » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:04 pm

    You might want to take a small stepladder as you can get some unusual angles and avoid the blown out sky in a few shots,

    it is also good for the group shots

    just a thought !

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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:19 am

    Eden wrote:You might want to take a small stepladder as you can get some unusual angles and avoid the blown out sky in a few shots,

    it is also good for the group shots

    just a thought !

    eden


    Good thought,
    Thank you.
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by heartyfisher » Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:19 pm

    What is your camera and lenses ? just curious ...
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    Re: External Flash Advice

    by Bigfoot1966 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:29 pm

    heartyfisher wrote:What is your camera and lenses ? just curious ...


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