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    17 shots

    by LOZ » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:45 am

    Just something different I took 17 shots yesterday in 10 minutes all posted here all shots are out of camera as I hate PPing

    Adventist Church Leura Panasonic GF1 20mm 1:7 this is still my favorite camera purchase in the last 20 years


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    Re: 17 shots

    by Eden » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:48 pm

    I really love the shapes and lines in the lectern/podium shot Loz.

    The detail in the trees really comes out with the white background also.

    I looking forward to seeing what you get from this camera as the tone and colour look great to me!.

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    Re: 17 shots

    by W G » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:00 pm

    Great Loz,

    I think those early Panasonics might have been far better than the later models.

    There is a similar sense of exploration in this series to what I found in my own exploits with the Panasonics I had.

    Were these all with the 20mm lens?

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    Re: 17 shots

    by Plays with Light » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:28 pm

    Nice explorations, LOZ. I like the lectern image, but the one taken through a window, with the reflection over on the right of frame balancing the angle of the ceiling line on the left perfectly, really speaks to me! Well, and the one with the lines of the pergola and that thin slit of sky... 8)
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    Re: 17 shots

    by Doug » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:49 pm

    Nice work LOZ
    I like seeing the whole series, it give some incite into the thought process.


    Just something different I took 17 shots yesterday in 10 minutes all posted here all shots are out of camera as I hate PPing


    PP is only laborious if you let it be I think.
    Things like slight tweaks to WB or exposure can be done at once in seconds with multiple images selected.
    I only fully edit the ones I like enough to go to that effort with.
    In my preferred Lightroom, at the same time I am looking though freshly uploaded images I'm pressing "X" for delete and "1" for one star so I can find that image later when the mood takes me to edit it.
    On average 2-5 images from an upload get a star
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    Re: 17 shots

    by LOZ » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:18 pm

    Doug wrote:Nice work LOZ
    I like seeing the whole series, it give some incite into the thought process.


    Just something different I took 17 shots yesterday in 10 minutes all posted here all shots are out of camera as I hate PPing


    PP is only laborious if you let it be I think.
    Things like slight tweaks to WB or exposure can be done at once in seconds with multiple images selected.
    I only fully edit the ones I like enough to go to that effort with.
    In my preferred Lightroom, at the same time I am looking though freshly uploaded images I'm pressing "X" for delete and "1" for one star so I can find that image later when the mood takes me to edit it.
    On average 2-5 images from an upload get a star



    Its not the time it takes to PP its just that I don't like it . I prefer the way pix come out of camera without fiddling
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    Re: 17 shots

    by W G » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:32 pm

    LOZ wrote:Its not the time it takes to PP its just that I don't like it . I prefer the way pix come out of camera without fiddling



    Amen to that Loz.
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    Re: 17 shots

    by Eden » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:07 pm

    I think it is great you took 17 shots and shared!

    cheers
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    Re: 17 shots

    by Doug » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:29 pm

    LOZ wrote:

    Its not the time it takes to PP its just that I don't like it . I prefer the way pix come out of camera without fiddling


    That would explain your extra pickiness with brand and model of camera. :)

    Why so for straight out of camera? I prefer the camera/digital darkroom approach personally.
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    Re: 17 shots

    by LOZ » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:34 pm

    Doug wrote:
    LOZ wrote:

    Its not the time it takes to PP its just that I don't like it . I prefer the way pix come out of camera without fiddling


    That would explain your extra pickiness with brand and model of camera. :)

    Why so for straight out of camera? I prefer the camera/digital darkroom approach personally.




    Just think what comes out of camera is so much closer to what I actually saw when I clicked the trigger

    Be my guest pick a photo from the 17 and apply PPing to what you like and post it up here and lets put them side by side and disuses the virtues of both

    Be a good exercise for both of us
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    Re: 17 shots

    by Eden » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:52 pm

    can we have full sized images to go from

    sounds like a great excercise for all as I like em out the camera also.

    I actually think it is a great idea Loz.
    I only PP with the windows basic crap as I dont have time or the scruples to really PP


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    Re: 17 shots

    by LOZ » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:03 pm

    Eden wrote:can we have full sized images to go from

    sounds like a great excercise for all as I like em out the camera also.

    I actually think it is a great idea Loz.
    I only PP with the windows basic crap as I dont have time or the scruples to really PP


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    Opps dont know what happened there :shock: :D give this a go

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    Re: 17 shots

    by Doug » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:03 am

    LOZ wrote:
    Just think what comes out of camera is so much closer to what I actually saw when I clicked the trigger

    Be my guest pick a photo from the 17 and apply PPing to what you like and post it up here and lets put them side by side and disuses the virtues of both

    Be a good exercise for both of us


    Thanks LOZ.
    I used an approach for these two that might put your apprehensions to rest if you did the same.
    Basically as soon as I start to edit I put the images into split screen. The from camera shows on the left, beside an identical image that is the only one that changes during editing.

    This way you can see if you are straying from the best aspects of the from camera image and you can tell if your edit is actually making an improvement.

    I should qualify that I was not there to see the scene as it was, nor do I have a feel for the scene either. I can only go by what I feel looks right to me and what appeals to me to bring out.

    So here is an edit of the image and another that is the image saved from here and imported/exported from the editor otherwise untouched.
    As a side note the interiors shots here I would not alter at all either.

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    This one felt a little dark to me and the tree had little separation from the sky.
    Slight change to the WB to take the blue from the white building.
    It is unlikely that all the changes you are going to feel are an improvement, but if there is even one of then that could be applied in isolation.

    And another.

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    Subtle change to WB and it appealed to me to make a greater contrast between the lit and shadow areas of the building.
    A quick play with the adjustment brush (digital dodge/burn) over the shadow area allowed me to deduce the exposure in just the shadow.
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    Re: 17 shots

    by W G » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:37 am

    As a comment, not a criticism, but in both cases I far prefer the original.
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    Re: 17 shots

    by LOZ » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:17 am

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    MMMM? Im with WG at the moment any others wishing to give it a go ?
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