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5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:27 pm
by Plays with Light
Well, it's finally out and it's damn expensive (in my eyes)! It can be yours for a mere $5,700 AU. I'll be sticking with my ever so humble and reliable 6D for a while yet... :shock:

https://www.canon.com.au/eos-5d-mark-iv/

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:31 pm
by Busiboy
I'm sure there are benefits, well out of my price range though

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:01 pm
by Doug
That's expensive alright.
Even the current model is more camera than I need though.

Lets see how it's sensor stacks up against the current leaders, might be an indication if the 6D mk2 would be worth considering down the track.

It's the 24-105 f4 L mkII that gets my interest at the moment.
It would be nice to keep that versatility of the focal length range without the nagging feeling that I should change to my newer lenses where they cross over that range.
It kind of negates that versatility to do so.

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:09 am
by beeb
IMO All the marketing seems to be tellingly lacking of any mention of dynamic range. Largely because it looks like DR and ISO noise have changed bugger-all.

From the Canon USA sample images:

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"EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM | 30.0 sec. | ISO 6400"

Look at the colour noise!!! What a disappointment... :(

For comparison, this is a SOOC jpeg taken with the a7R II: (Loxia 21mm, f/2.8, 20sec, ISO6400 - resized to same resolution)
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If they could've improved noise performance and DR I'd have jumped back (when funds permitted) because everything to do with using the camera is so much better on the Canon, but it looks like I'll be stuck in the Sony camp a while longer as I can work around its flaws for now.

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:52 am
by Doug
beeb wrote:IMO All the marketing seems to be tellingly lacking of any mention of dynamic range. Largely because it looks like DR and ISO noise have changed bugger-all.


By Canons standards if the 80D is anything to go by (and it should be since the same sensor redesign is in the 1DX mk2 and 5D mkiv) DR is a big jump ahead of say the 70D, 6D and I'm sure the 5D mkIII.

Here is a lab test of different exposure recoveries with numerous cameras https://www.dpreview.com/news/716898657 ... low-iso-dr

The 1DXmk2 is particularly good up to +5EV. Not quite as good as the D810 and a7R II, then the wheels start to fall of at +6EV, but still impressive from a Canon sensor, particularly when you put a previous generation Canon sensor result along side.

The Sony sensors are exceptional in the area of DR and Canon suffer a bit by comparison, but I think the time may have passed when new Canons can be considered poor in that area and it is now a useful feature.

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:21 pm
by Doug
Wow, this camera is getting a roasting at the moment from the spec sheet reviewers.

Outdated card slots.
A buffer that is small by other cameras standards and issues with the practicality of its 4K video.

It does appear a bit nobbled by it's old tech card slots and the videographers seem to be getting told (though features) if you want serious video capabilities the 5D range is not the place to go looking anymore.

Canon do like to create clearly defined boundaries between models to an annoying extent.

Re: 5D Mk IV is finally here

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:56 pm
by Eden
my main format is and will be crop sensor due to macro and rear of new house view but I might get the 6d mk2 with 24-105 mk2 when it comes out for a full frame kit as it will be good bang for buck I believe.

the $$$$ full frame wears is stupendous compared to 1.6 crop to me and not warranted in the top end gear.